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Come On You Irons 1:34 Wed Jan 3
Mubama

Let's face it. He was awful when he came on last night.

Supporters clamber for youngsters to be given a chance, but they must seize their opportunities and prove their worth when given game time. Mubama fluffed his lines last night. He's clearly not good enough. Looks like a League 1 level player to me.

El Coucho 1:38 Wed Jan 3
Re: Mubama

I tend to agree. The few opportunities he's had this season he hasn't really added much to the team. Doesn't even seem to run as much as the much older Antonio.

Fauxstralian 1:39 Wed Jan 3
Re: Mubama

Not ready .... if he will ever be
Should go out on loan in January and get some games as bits and pieces at this level is achieving nothing.
Suspect it would be at League 1 level

Hopefully we are finding a proper striker in January, Antonio can be the back up and Ings is shifted

goose 1:46 Wed Jan 3
Re: Mubama

bit harsh given he came on and spent most of his time defending the 18 yard box.

Manuel 1:47 Wed Jan 3
Re: Mubama

Probably a bit harsh to start a thread on this, but since he won't be reading then yea it's hard to disagree. He's not going to make it in the PL, at this point I'd actually give him no chance, no point in letting sentiment cloud your judgement, what is he meant to be good at exactly? just looks like a lumbering bit of lard to me, but hopefully he can have a decent career in the lower leagues.

Side of Ham 1:49 Wed Jan 3
Re: Mubama

Yes it’s always best to give your attack minded youngsters a go when 2 of your best attacking players are not playing and take off the better performing replacement….going to be bundles of chances when you are also asked not to stretch the defensive formation to keep the shape…..judge him when he gets given clear cut chances to fuck up….

fraser 1:50 Wed Jan 3
Re: Mubama

Not seen anything that indicates he's anywhere near ready... But you never know. A loan would be the best thing for him now.

Nick QQQ 1:51 Wed Jan 3
Re: Mubama

If you're going to judge a player on brief cameos, especially under Moyes, that is majorly harsh in my opinion. He was brought on with Moyes playing for the draw last night. He recieved no service, in fact from the time he came on we were playing hoof ball.
Think it's hard to say either way.
What was clear last night is the power of playing youngsters regularly, as Brighton showed (poor finishing aside).

brick_lane_batty_boy 1:57 Wed Jan 3
Re: Mubama

Ridiculous to write him off given the total lack of opportunity.

Chased shadows for 15 mins - we couldn't get out of own half and he's getting slagged off haha.

The time to give him 20/30 mins - is when we're two nil up at home - whilst the creative players are still on the pitch. Let him get on the ball, with options to lay it off to - let him get in the box when we've got players on the pitch who can deliver a final ball

Manuel 1:57 Wed Jan 3
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fraser -- You're right that you never know, but I really don't see how loaning him out to a league 1 side is going to get him ready for the PL? Even if he did well it really wouldn't count for much once he comes back since the step up is so big. I appreciate he needs game time but I've never been convinced loaning out players to lower leagues is the answer, think the best way is for them to stay and develop at the club, but obviously then it's limited game time. It's really tough either way.

Nick QQQ 2:00 Wed Jan 3
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Manuel 1:57 Wed Jan 3

Agreed and frankly whilst Moyes is still here it;s irrelevant how well you do. Look at Downes in the Championship right now, will he come back and get in the side ahead of Soucek, no chance.

brick_lane_batty_boy 2:00 Wed Jan 3
Re: Mubama

They loan them out to lower league sides to get them ready physically not technically

marty feldman 2:19 Wed Jan 3
Re: Mubama

What a crock of Shite . He was given no support upfront whatsoever. He was a lone striker against 3 centre Half's Bowen was shattered and couldn't help him . He might well not be good enough. time will tell . But to judge a player on 20 minutes is harsh .

Ron Eff 2:25 Wed Jan 3
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I tend to agree that he isn’t good enough, but he was hardly given any opportunity to prove me otherwise last night. He came on just as Moyes decided 0-0 against Brighton is an exceptional result and that we wouldn’t try to venture over the half way line.

Cornet is a curious case. He hasn’t pulled up any trees, sure, but in a poor Burnley side playing up front he scored goals. If he isn’t going to get a chance last night in those circumstances, he never is. May as well not even name him on the bench.

claret on my shirt 2:28 Wed Jan 3
Re: Mubama

The one thing i have noticed about him and it could be nerves and trying to do to much in these 10-20 minute cameo roles he's had, but his touch is poor, the ball seems to bounce off of him. Agree with others on here in those cameo roles he's had he has almost no service, almost nothing down the channels to run on to, that allows him to use his pace and size and no decent crosses from out wide to use his height and strength. Shame really

Yorkammer 2:38 Wed Jan 3
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Given the limited opportunities he gets, I would expect him to be busting a gut when he's on the pitch to show Moyes why he should be selecting him. I have not seen that to date.

Side of Ham 2:42 Wed Jan 3
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If he’d bust a gut the shape would have been compromised and Moyes would have bollock’d him as the decision was made to protect the point….even Bowen was average last night….

Willtell 3:01 Wed Jan 3
Re: Mubama

Blimey you lot are really harsh. The odds are he won't make a PL player but you need to judge him on the fact that Haller, Scamacca and Ings are all multi-capped internationals and they can't play Moyesball either.

What did anyone expect from a 19 years old? Collect the ball run 50m beat 3 defenders and score all by himself?

I saw one moment where he got penalised for pushing a defender after instantly controlling the ball on his toe. I would say that he has talent but no-one knows for sure whether he will make PL level yet.

Mad Dog 3:08 Wed Jan 3
Re: Mubama

Maybe not
But given the choice of him or ings I know who I prefer and it isn't the 125k pw hair transplant boy.

Last night erling haaland pr mbappe would have looked shit without any service.

Moyes does NOT know how to use forwards

SnarestoneIron 5:27 Wed Jan 3
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Manuel 1:57 Wed Jan 3

Playing in the lower leagues should toughen him up and show that he can play against men rather than boys. I think forwards more than most positions does them good. Defoe, Kane, both went on loan, and did ok.

Iron Duke 5:33 Wed Jan 3
Re: Mubama

He has looked out of his depth the last few games. I don’t think he has been managed well at all. He always looked a bit raw though, and now probably needs to go out on loan.

Hopefully he’ll start on Saturday before going somewhere on loan for some proper game time.

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